Those connected to the light side of the Force find their powers diminished in these places, while those who wield the dark side are amazed at the strength they gain, even as that energy overwhelms them. Maul is much faster then Traya and given that there is only 10 feet of space between them he can most likely blitz. Covering 10 feet in well under a second so he can put his leg through Nihilus' torso is well within Maul's capabilities. What I was doing, is providing another source for Mauls speed and strength. Maul appeared to be everywhere at once to Vosa, almost too fast for her to see. "There are some techniques in the force in which there is no defense. @darkdefender: No, it was not with the help of Sion. The holorecorder captured his image. Vitiate being good at augmenting his speed through the Force isn't transferable to Nihilus IMO. MasTazas Star Wars Darth Nihilus Wanduhren Wall Clock 20cm. 3840x2160 Sith Triumvirate by Hyperion127 on DeviantArt. I disagree. Yes, it is, and you don't need to be "good" at Force Speed. Darth Nihilus B A D M A N. Dec 20, 2020 #41 Fang Titan . Jedes andere, sogar jedes machtfähige Lebewesen mit ähnlichem Körperbau, würde bei diesen Verletzungen dem Tod erliegen. @i_like_swords: You know what? So even within the New Canon, you need to differentiate between Movie/TCW characters and film-novel characters. [FP]=147 Shaak-Ti25. Fact: Despite being a master of Plagueis' form, while Plagueis had no knowledge of his form, Venamis still lost to Plagueis. Yep, I am saying that Maul was so superhumanly fast that in order for the holorecording to show him, it would need to be put in slow motion. He just goes straight for the force,). Pure and simple. The assassin vs the butcher, speed versus strength. What I'm saying is, however powerful Meetra is is irrelevant to how fast she is. Teneb. By turning to such diversionary tactics, Vosa had all but admitted that she was no match for the erratic staccato blows that he was delivering, seemingly from everywhere, all at once. Download. @darkdefender: What? It's from the author's perspective, unless you want to call this Obi-Wan's perspective: As Obi-Wan gave ground, Dooku quickened the pace. [FP]=600 StarKiller/Galen Marek 5. The movie, and possibly other sources but I haven't seen them. In Legends canon, we have Obi-Wan and Luke deflecting blaster bolts from hundreds/thousands of shooters simultaneously, the feats for Maul you've already seen, Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura moving as a blur in the view of a Clone Trooper, Darth Plagueis and Darth Venamis lighting an entire forest up like lightning while dueling, Revan and Vitiate carrying out an extensive duel in seconds, Kyle Katarn and others dueling with Caedus in a matter of seconds.. and the list goes on. That is why she used Meetra, who could not be drained, to defeat Nihilus. [FP]=400 Darth Malgus11. Teneb isn't > Maul. You have New Canon Maul, or Legends Maul - an amalgamation is impossible to create. If not, he gets drained. Als die Mandalorianer den Planeten zerstörten, konnte Alek der Schlacht entkommen, woraufhin der Name seines Heimatdorfs durch amtliche Dokumente zu seinem Nachnamen wurde. I said that because they were fighting characters with knowledge of each other's forms makes it analogous to fighting a doppelganger. They did not even touch her before Nihilus drained and pushed her against the wall. … @wut: Fair enough, but it still doesn't change my stance. Concept designs, and ideas that they tossed out are one thing, a cut-content that was fully voiced is completely different as that was just not put in because of time restraints. We do not grab the highest showing and parade that around as that characters strength. You need to play it in slow motion for it to SHOW IT TO THEM! And that's where we find problems - because as I already discussed, TCW animation is a different medium, and canon class (and thus, different versions of the characters) than Legends Canon. Yes, it does. That's all well and good, but Maul's travel speed is sufficient to have him going through Nihilus in well under a second. Fact: Plagueis and Venamis both received their training from Tenebrous, putting them at roughly equal skill levels. Aug 6, 2012 - "There is no strength in the hunger he possesses… and the will behind his power is a primal thing. But he doesn't. The only explanation to this is - it's fiction, go with it. I don't remember him writing from the omniscient author's view. Movie. This is a godstomp. Uh, yes, obviously you were supposed to take all his showings. @i_like_swords: I feel this is an even fight 50/50. Download. He used lightning, drain, and ragdolled him all at once (Pulled him towards him then pushed him away again). Download. i hope you like it and tell me which should i do next. Pivoting easily, he swung out at her, the dark side streaming so powerfully from him now that it seemed to be pouring forth in great fan-shaped swaths in the air around him. Think. I said it was only partially due to power levels, but since Nihilus is vastly more powerful than Maul, then it's reasonable to submit that Nihilus could react. For characters with multiple showings, you take all their showings. Ten bucks says if cut-content showed Maul dominating Ki-Adi, you would be using it in this debate. It's still better than anything Meetra has done. @i_like_swords: nihilus force pushing Darth traya seemed pretty quick. None of that was from Vosa's perspective. The holorecorder captured the fast moving being. [FP]=800 Luke Skywalker (Full Potential) 3. Now he could see what she meant. However, Traya reciprocates his betrayal by luring him into a confrontation with the Jedi Exile and Nihilus's own former apprentice. You may do what you like but cut content is not counted by me unless specifically added into the OP. Anyway, in light of the new feat I can agree that Meetra is faster than Vosa, providing this talk of nexuses and amps holds up, because while I trust you I haven't seen any of it myself. Bane is > Maul tbh . The film novels are a part of the New Canon, and in there you see Luke Skywalker peforming feats like reacting in nanoseconds, and Sidious moving faster than Anakin's perceptions can follow (and Anakin can see sub-light speed projectiles in slow motion). --Taken from the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide. Now. Sion was a non-factor. [FP]=144 Kylo Ren or Rey(all chars have equal health - only the combat skills/abilities make the difference)This is a unique MOD, created by Me for Jedi Academy game. My main point being, in a Legends Canon debate, you can't discredit Legends feats with New Canon sources like TCW. Show him to WHO! Nihilus is a one trick pony and has nothing but drain. You need to give us a speed that we can somewhat imagine and visualize if you are trying to use that as a way to speed blitz someone. Nonprofit Organization. Actually, yes, it does, because both are a similar type of character. Duel) - YouTube I really don't understand what you're saying here. Not that it effects this anyways as it still comes down to who strikes first in which I give Nihilus the edge because all he has to do is raise his hand. Shadow Conspiracy, Sith Hunters, Death Sentence, The Wrath of Darth Maul ect, are all Legends Canon, and all feature Maul after he was bisected. on December 23rd 2020, 10:52 am. Darth Traya: A Star Wars Story - Duration: 4:22. As it is an impressive, very impressive, if not unknown speed feat. Sion is rather pathetic compared to Traya and Nihilus.). An individual's personal strength in the Force, devotion to training, etc. If Maul closes in the gap quickly enough, Nihilus is dead. He's shown passive Force speed when fighting and losing to Meetra and two others in an unconfirmed manner (while weakened), which is alright, but I still don't see it as enough to defend from a blitz from Maul. When someone says a character takes feats from all media, we take all media. Even better than Darth Vader. Suspect Hero | Level Four. Revan was an extremely powerful Sith Lord and Jedi Knight. The holorecording can display him. Revan vs Darth Maul 68 results; 1; 2; Akira Overdrive. Nihilus bloodlusted instant drains and throws Maul across the fight area 100 times even if he has already died by this point from impact. ", Nihilus isn't someone Traya could defeat in direct confrontation. The droid raced past him and smashed hard against the cell wall. No, he didn't appear everywhere at once to Vosa. That sounds pretty powerful to me. He gets ragdolled with low effort. While the book is written from Maul's viewpoint in third person, I believe it moves over to Vosa's perspective here: Pivoting easily, he swung out at her, the dark side streaming so powerfully from him now that it seemed to be pouring forth in great fan-shaped swaths in the air around him. Darth Maul: Apprentice. Third underline is confirmation that they weren't fighting dopplegangers of each other, but rather Plagueis was at a disadvantage because Venamis was an expert in Plagueis' style, and could anticipate and counter his every move, whereas Plagueis didn't know what he was getting into, resulting in him sustaining a flesh wound. [FP]=149 Tavion24. Apparently not. Standard gear, all abilities allowed, fighting all out, and the fight is to the death (Maul only has to 4,8 von 5 Sternen 307. Aus dem Shop ARTSABERS . A statement made in 2011 that states Maul as of TPM on Tatooine is proof that the Sith are more powerful than ever. You can't take Maul moving at Mach 4 in one source, and him moving at below Mach 1 in another, and then say that he should move at around Mach 2. Teaching somebody the forms and the basics of combat doesn't mean anything. This Maul is also only using one of his blades and has a leg injury. Obviously, Maul isn't going that fast because he wouldn't want to alert everyone here is there by the sound of his movements. They made the scene, they voiced it, they only didn't put it in because of time restraints. This more than justifies Plagueis being in Maul's tier. Dec 20, 2020 #42 Rechecked, there's the old conversation where Sidious talks to Vader about Maul and how he had a Force-Bond of sorts with Maul; so when the events of the duel's outcome on Naboo went down, he felt a tremendous blow to himself and the dark side when Maul was seemingly "killed". He did not want to kill Sion, merely to teach him a lesson. Yep, I'm fully aware of what I'm trying to say right now. Idt maul can close the distance in time. Nihilus stomps almost anyone in terms of Force, since he can drain entire planets. HellfireUnit. Stupid. Darth Nihilus is very powerful sith (he has full level of the Force Drain) because of that, he will challenge My Top 20 List. Then he sprang to a series of other sites that ultimately carried him to the wall of the principal building, moving with such speed the entire time that whatever holorecordings were being made wouldn't show himunless they were played in slow motion. And after that, there wasn't any mention of that. Darth Maul-Core. Er hoffte, in den alten Sith-Monumenten Rat … ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It proves that they both learnt from him, not that they were equals. He also moved too fast for the human eye to see, but the point here isn't what the human eye can see, it's what the holorecording can display. Des Weiteren hatte er die Fähigkeit, die Macht aus allen Wesen oder Gegenständen zu absorbieren, was dazu führte, dass er nicht nur Lebewesen, sondern ganze Planeten ihrer Kraft beraubte oder zerstörte. By turning to such diversionary tactics, Vosa had all but admitted that she was no match for the erratic staccato blows that he was delivering, seemingly from everywhere, all at once. [FP]=466 Darth Sidious 8. Edit: Sidious, TPM Maul and Vader all have statements over the opposing team. I don't know where you are having problems with this. Again, re-read the quote. Nihilus hasn't demonstrated any remarkable speed feats other then keeping up with The Exile briefly before being defeated. Nihilus was weakened by trying to drain Meetra. 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Cut content was cut for a reason even if that remains unknown. How is her deflecting Jango's shots in pairs and retreating at the same time a better feat than Meetra fighting off Imperial Guards amped by Vitiate or deflecting fire from mercenaries on a dark side nexus? Clearly, it was from a third-person limited perspective using Maul, not Vosa, as a perspective. People with eyes. Again, stop and think about it. It was powerful enough to engulf the whole planet in lightning storms, and it was powerful enough to attract the Sith fleeing from the Great Hyperspace War. Download. Much like if you set at a race car track, it is rather deafening when they zoom by you. Vaelias. Show him to who!? [FP]=410 Revan10. I think I succeeded in providing you the speed in question. So if you want to debate TCW/New Canon Maul vs Legends Nihilus, be my guest. This is prime Darth Maul vs prime Darth Sion. That (his duel with Revan) was his first fight anyway. Not quite desperation, but he did have to roll out of the way because of the pressure Jango was putting on him. I'm going to take your simplification of this matter as your inability to refute my points. However, Nihilus hasn't shown himself augmenting his Force speed. Set von 2 Darth Maul Lichtschwert Kraft FX schwere Duell Lichtschwert Star Wars Custom Lichtschwert **VIDEO in Beschreibung ** ARTSABERS. But, the human eye does not see as well as a Camera, in order for the holorecording to show it to people, it needs to slow down Maul for their eyes. He used a Force power, actively. You don't just say, 'they move this fast, deal with it'. Nur noch 9 auf Lager. The Camera sees him no matter what. Combine that and you get.... ? [FP]=170 Mara Jade (too weak)22. Level Two. When Nihilus wishes to drain someone, it is instant as he did to the planet and Traya who has very, very nice force feats of her own. Sidious and Maul also have statements over Plagueis and thus all past Sith. Disney XD 9,871,073 views. However, that isn't what the feat is discussing - because again, you're mixing up what the human eye can see, and what the video recording can display. Nihilus doesn't have to keep up with Maul. That is what composite truly means or 'all media' something few people on any battle thread understands. So, what I want to see is Nihilus actively increasing his Force speed to such levels that he can react to Maul. 4.5 von 5 Sternen (488) 488 Bewertungen. Psychically starved by the effort, the Dark Lord falls to the Jedi, and Nihilus the man dissolves into oblivion. Nihilus is not in TCW, or I would happily show him in there. What you're saying is that, if someone was watching a holorecording of Maul at normal speed, they couldn't see him. Therefore, Plagueis has to be within Sidious' ballpark of skill in order to teach him to that very skill, and I think a tier 8 is a fair placement. There was no indication I could find in the video that he was weakened. Nihilius 6/10. Dooku is not so fast that Obi-Wan would get speedblitzed by him. Traya trained Meetra back in the arts of dueling, but we know full well that Meetra is vastly more skilful. No, it doesn't. WHO WHO WHO WHO is the question! As if Nihilus is just gonna fucking stand there and let Maul kill him when he gets close. Since they're fast enough to install fear in Dark Council Members, and bring the mightiest of Sith in the OR era to their knees in inevitable defeat, and amped, they must at least be about as fast as Vosa, who deflected blaster bolts where other featless Force Users couldn't. When he was satisfied that he had committed the results of his reconnaissance to memory, he shrugged out of his cloak and leapt straight up over the fence, landing precisely where some of the rocks he had tossed rested. Him being more powerful means he has more Dark Side energy to draw from, meaning he can augment his speed just as well if not further. In seiner Ausbildung erhielt er den Beinamen Lord des Hungers aufgrund der Notwendigkeit, sich an dem Tod v… That's what this quote said too: So, by saying Maul moves "this fast", the "this" being: I am failing to "provide the speed in question"? If not, he gets drained. And the ones she didn't deflect were being dodged for the most part. GRATIS Versand durch Amazon. Why in the world would cut-content not count? You are simply being ridiculous then. Plagueis trained Sidious to wield and duel with a lightsaber - therefore, Sidious' lightsaber skill comes from Plagueis. Superhero battle match: Darth Nihilus versus Darth Maul (TCW). Er besann sich auf die Macht und sog in einem Sith-Monument auf Malachor V die darin enthaltene Dunkle Energie in sich auf. Psychically starved by the effort, the Dark Lord falls to the Jedi, and Nihilus the man dissolves into oblivion. No, it doesn't. Community. Yet Maul was too fast for it to follow during a casual training exercise. are all other factors that make up one's skill. It does not work like that. The problem, again, with trying to take such a speed feat is the fact that should he be moving hundreds of miles per hour, which would probably be the case if he is moving hundreds of meters per second in order to beat out the natural 'flicker' rate of human eyes (which is relevant given this is a droid which would have probably superior 'eyes'), then he would be making a lot of noise. I didn't say they were fighting dopplegangers of each other. When did I say physical speed is the only speed there is? He also knows Stun and Lightning. Level Four . To Plagueis, lightsaber duels were tedious affairs, full of wasted emotion and needless acrobatics. It's better than deflecting blaster fire from featless mercenaries, because Jango's volleys of blaster bolts were unrelenting and sustained, and he's a far better marksman then them. Forum Posts. And it devours him as he devours others—his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him. 23,99 € 23,99 € 6,50 € Versand. 0 ... Revan vs Maul from what I have heard of Revan I think he takes this. If Maul closes in the gap quickly enough, Nihilus is dead. All your arguments about practicality and being good at Force Speed should apply here, but they don't. Loading... Unsubscribe from Nitros14? To move faster then a camera would require someone to move faster then photons. [FP]=540 Darth Vader (Anakin on the Dark Side) 6. A technique. All around them, the whole world seemed to be blowing itself to pieces. I am aware of EU feats. The lord of hunger. I don't remember the author ever showing foreknowledge in Lockdown - he was always describing events unfolding in the present, as the characters experienced them. Do you realize what you are trying to say right now? There is no way to find a consistent speed there, because they are two different versions of the character - different canon, different results. Darth Nihilus vs Darth Sion Nitros14. @wut: I'm sorry I had thought that Sion had helped Nihilus in some way. I've lost why this point was even brought up anyway. Now, if we look at TCWs, he was obviously, not moving hundreds of miles per hour. @icecold14: Eh, put Maul 10 feet away from Nihilus with the intent to kill him and I'll take him any day of the week. Unless it was put into slow motion. Revan. Sion has never demonstrated the ability to Drain. That form of logic has no substance. [FP]=450 Bastila Shan or Satele Shan 9. Wiki Points . 1600x1200 Darth Nihilus Vs Darth Sion Images & Pictures - Becuo. which is why I said I side with Nihilus for having to preform less physical actions, but in truth, this fight is, more or less, a coin flip. I know what Force speed is. Sion was little more then a glorified henchman. Darth Nihilus vs Darth Sion! What the human eye can see while viewing a video is different from what the video camera can capture. You said the holorecording can see him, but it can't display him. TCW Maul, or to phrase it better, "post-bisection Maul", exists within Legends Canon - therefore his Legends feats should apply. ... Darth Maul & Savage Opress VS Darth Sidious - Duration: 5:01. Moves so fast that recording equipment needs to be slowed down to see him. ―Kreia. Deshalb war er auch als Lord des Hungersbekannt. You can write from the perspective of a character while keeping it in third person, as long as the events in the novel are experienced as the character experiences them, never hinting at the future or demonstrating any foreknowledge. Darth Maul vs Obi-Wan | Star Wars Rebels | Disney XD - Duration: 3:00. If you wanted to know how powerful Dromund Kaas is: The powerful electrical storms were a physical manifestation of the dark side power that engulfed the entire planet - a power that had brought the Sith back here a millennium before, when their very survival had been in doubt. [FP]=300 Count Dooku17. It makes it fairly clear cut. Which is wrong, because the whole premise of Force Speed is that it relates to the Force. Darth Maul 【Star Wars】 Movie Character. No, it doesn't. Going faster then normal human eye could follow. @burnface: No, Nihilus does not have nothing minus Drain. I believe Lockdown was written in the Multiple Viewpoints style in third person, not omniscient writer. Follow 10214. NC Maul loses badly, Legends Maul has a very good chance of closing the distance. I'd be remiss to point out the rest of the indications since you're absolutely adamant that they're meaningless. This is true. When he was satisfied that he had committed the results of his reconnaissance to memory, he shrugged out of his cloak and leapt straight up over the fence, landing precisely where some of the rocks he had tossed rested. There is one exception to this, however. [FP]=180 Qui Gon Jinn (too weak)21. Nihilius has no body, so Maul can't beat him or be defeated in a physical contest. [FP]=700 Master Yoda 4. When Nihilus tries feeding on the Jedi, his hunger is mysteriously repelled, as if confronted by his exact polar opposite. You take high end showings and his low end (TCW/TPM) and then try to find the middle ground. Fictional Character . At one point he leapt onto an overhanging greel branch and, when Plagueis severed it with a Force blow, hung suspended in the air—no mean feat in itself—and continued the fight, as if from high ground. 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